RE: No Escape

["Creager, Robert S" <CreagRS@LOUISVILLE.STORTEK.COM>]

Not entirely true.  While I'm not sure of the ISP's which offer this,
satellite links are now symmetric.  A co-worker has one set up, with no
outbound phone service.  A transmitter is actually put on the 'DirecTV'
dish, and power is derived by the extra coax which provides the up/down link
from dish to 'modem'.  Unfortunately, he is not at work today, so I cannot
get specifics.  One interesting note is there is large latencies involved
(around 1/2 second for a DNS lookup - 2 outbound and 2 inbound requests,
traveling ~25000x4 miles), but once the pipe is started, it goes...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albertson, Chris [mailto:CAlbertson@primeadvantage.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:25 PM
> To: TASS Mail List
> Subject: RE: No Escape
> 
> 
> 
> Satellite links are not symmetric.  They use a high speed
> downlink but out outbound data uses a modem as there is no
> microwave transmitter in the dish antenna.  So even with
> DirectPC you still need a phone line.  The bandwidth you
> get is _highly_ asymmetric.
> 
> The bottom line is that service in non-urban areas will
> be expensive and late.  You need density to make coverage
> pay.
> 
> Does anyone remember the Internet before there were commercial
> for-profit ISPs?  It used to be the only way to get connected
> was to know someone who was already connected and piggy back
> off them.  Most sites would piggy back off multiple other sites
> and in turn give connects to several others.  This is how the 
> Internet worked until the 1990's.  Maybe we should get
> back to this idea.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug Welch [mailto:welch@physics.mcmaster.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:30 AM
> > To: jbush@pucp.edu.pe
> > Cc: TASS Mail List
> > Subject: Re: No Escape
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The other major player - the first, if I remember correctly -
> > is DirecPC by Hughes. Information can be found at www.direcpc.com.
> > At least they only claim "nationwide"!
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Doug
> > 
> >
>