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RE: DAOPHOT
Rob,
As you know, I fight hard to keep tass as a non-organization. So no one
can speak for tass. Not even me. Each individual who got a disk would
have to sign the release. I suspect that this is too much trouble to make
it reasonable to include DAOPHOT. Sorry it is this way. But it does have
some advantages. I think that this way we each only have the individual
liability that we each have from doing our thing. There really is no
tass. We meet at a mail list and at a home page. But we are not an
organization.
There is now a tass charitable corporation. But it is something different
from the people that meet on the tass mail list.
I am sending this to the tass list, just for the record of how I behave
when the question of membership comes up. I repeat, we do not have
"members". We also do not have non-members. All are free to meet where
tass meets and discuss things that tass discusses.
Tom Droege
At 03:47 PM 6/21/02 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm copying your response to Tom Droege, who is the reason and the drive for
>TASS.
>
>Tom, what do you think about this (see below)? If you don't feel
>comfortable with this, no problem. I'll just not include DAOPHOT by
>default.
>
>I've just faxed the form to you, and I will assume unless Tom indicates
>otherwise, that I will need to have a signed form (which will be sent to
>you) before I give a CD with DAOPHOT source to the requestors. Is this
>appropriate? Can you make the source available on your HTTP/FTP site?
>
>As for Starlink being persistant, I've no idea. I was just making sure it
>would not be stepping outside what you would think was appropriate,
>distributing their binary versions without the form filled out.
>
>Thanks,
>Rob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stetson, Peter [mailto:Peter.Stetson@nrc.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:34 PM
> > To: Creager, Robert S
> > Subject: RE: DAOPHOT
> >
> >
> > It's a question of what will keep the lawyers in Ottawa
> > happy. If TASS is
> > prepared to promise, as an organization, that none of its
> > members will pass
> > the software along to third parties outside of TASS, then I
> > guess that is
> > probably good enough.
> >
> > I don't know enough about Starlink to answer your second
> > question. Is it a
> > system with an assured future? The Europeans are tending to
> > abandon MIDAS;
> > will Starlink continue to survive?
> >
> > PBS
> >
> > See agreement at the bottom.
> >
> > PBS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Creager, Robert S [mailto:CreagRS@LOUISVILLE.STORTEK.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 1:02 PM
> > To: 'Stetson, Peter'
> > Subject: DAOPHOT
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > I'm putting together a tools CD
> > (http://www.logicalchaos.org/tass/cd.htm)
> > for the TASS members (http://www.tass-survey.org). Doug
> > Welch would like to
> > see DAOPHOT included, with source if possible (apparently, he
> > has a GNU
> > makefile which would make this useable).
> >
> > So, the first questions is, would this be permissible
> > (sending the source
> > code which I would need to get from you)? I understand that
> > there may be
> > some paperwork to sign (which I never did as I ended up using
> > the Starlink
> > version and deleting the source you sent me), but could this
> > be done at a
> > group level? TASS is an official non-profit orginazation if
> > that would make
> > any difference. Or as another option, I would be happy to have signed
> > paperwork in my hand before sending out copies of the disk if
> > this would be
> > a possible solution.
> >
> > The second question is would there be any trouble
> > distributing the Starlink
> > version of DAOPHOT (if the source would not be appropriate)? I have
> > permission from Patrick Wallace, because of the small number
> > of persons
> > involved, to distribute a couple of packages (SLAlib right
> > now). Although
> > you may know better that I, apparently Patrick is in a
> > position to give this
> > permission.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob
> >
> > ====================================
> >
> > DAOPHOT and related software (c)
> > Copyright 2002 by the National Research Council of Canada
> >
> > DAOPHOT and related software packages, which were developed
> > by Peter B.
> > Stetson, are subject to Crown Copyrights that are the intellectual
> > property of the National Research Council of Canada. This software is
> > being provided free of charge to interested scientific
> > researchers with
> > the sole condition that the recipients agree not to distribute either
> > original or modified copies of this software to other individuals or
> > organizations without the express written permission of the National
> > Research Council of Canada. All requests for copies of this software,
> > and for permission for further distribution, should be directed to
> > Peter B. Stetson at the address below.
> >
> > This restriction is intended (1) to prevent multiple, variously
> > modified versions of the software from circulating in the scientific
> > community under a single name, thereby causing much confusion; (2) to
> > ensure direct communication between all users of the software and its
> > primary developer, so that any problems may be immediately addressed;
> > and (3) to assist in the appropriate attribution of credit and blame.
> >
> > By signing and returning this statement, you agree that
> > neither you nor
> > your organization will distribute either original or modified
> > copies of
> > this software without the permission of the National Research Council
> > of Canada.
> >
> > James E. Hesser, Acting Director General
> > Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics
> > National Research Council of Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > Contact address:
> >
> > Peter B. Stetson Peter.Stetson@hia.nrc.ca
> > Dominion Astrophysical Observatory
> > 5071 West Saanich Road (250)363-0029 (office)
> > Victoria, British Columbia V8X 4M6 -0001
> > (receptionist)
> > Canada -0045 (FAX)
> >