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RE: More asteroids



Michael Sallman writes:

> It looks like TOM1 and TOM2 are both affected (didn't finds any matches
for TOM3 yet). It looks like the error probably began when Tom started up
for this
> year's run.
> On the bright side, Doug's script is a really great tool for matching
these asteroids to "stray" observations that don't match stars already in
the database.
> I'm thinking that I could put up a page of new "single observation"
objects, if someone was interested in such things.
>
> Mike

Michael R put up data where it was OK at the beginning of April and OK at
the end of April and bad in between.  This mystifies me.  This year's data
started in March.  So it is not consistent with the above observation.  

I agree that something may be wrong.  I don't understand what.  I think
that we need to be very careful and just collect data  until it tells us
what is going on.  It could still have nothing to do with date.  We have a
huge data base and there is noise.  Noise and a lot of data will produce
things that look like they are correlated.  It is a statistical certainty. 
We have to make sure that we are seeing a real problem.  

Tom Droege




> [Original Message]
> From: Michael Sallman <msallman@pro-ns.net>
> To: Tass <tass@listserv.wwa.com>
> Date: 6/14/2004 8:41:48 PM
> Subject: More asteroids
>
> It looks like this one from Dec. 26 2003 was good JD-wise.
>
> 18 Melpomene : http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/135493.html
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=7707026;
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl   | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | 90549058 |    7707026 | 179.7917 | 1.5345 | 2452999.99785 | 11.182 |
0.010 |      0 | 10.470 | 0.005 |      0 | Mhra2998752.cal |      372351 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
>
> It looks like TOM1 and TOM2 are both affected (didn't finds any matches
for TOM3 yet). It looks like the error probably began when Tom started up
for this
> year's run.
> On the bright side, Doug's script is a really great tool for matching
these asteroids to "stray" observations that don't match stars already in
the database.
> I'm thinking that I could put up a page of new "single observation"
objects, if someone was interested in such things.
>
> Mike
>
> #########################################################################
>
> 42 Isis : http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/155186adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=8230306;
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl    | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | 98569533 |    8230306 | 162.2951 | 19.7356 | 2453114.59966 | 12.312 |
0.022 |      0 | 11.424 | 0.008 |      0 | Mira3114567.cal |        9592 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
>
> 15 Eunomia :
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/147572adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=8111593;
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+-------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+--------
-+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl   | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+-------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+--------
-+
> | 96180349 |    8111593 | 135.1677 | 7.1836 | 2453112.56817 | 10.495 |
0.009 |      0 | 9.728 | 0.004 |      0 | Mhra3112563.cal |        2615 |  
0 |
> | 96181180 |    8111593 | 135.1685 | 7.1825 | 2453112.56985 | 10.723 |
0.010 |      0 | 9.828 | 0.004 |      0 | Mhra3112563.cal |        3446 |  
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+-------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+--------
-+
>
> 144 Vibilia :
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/147183adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=8108991;
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl    | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | 96056858 |    8108991 | 200.0945 | -2.3342 | 2453109.74552 | 12.707 |
0.016 |      0 | 11.772 | 0.011 |      0 | Mhra3109558.cal |       79759 | 
1 |
> | 96057524 |    8108991 | 200.0948 | -2.3345 | 2453109.74720 | 12.795 |
0.041 |      0 | 11.811 | 0.011 |      0 | Mhra3109558.cal |       80449 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
>
> And another observation of Mandeville (this time with the TOM2):
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/154682adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=8217700;
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl    | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | 98384525 |    8217700 | 220.4005 | 19.1165 | 2453109.76631 | 12.010 |
0.017 |      0 | 11.225 | 0.006 |      0 | Mira3109751.cal |        8775 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
>
> 345 Dembowska & 68 Leto :
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/141521adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=7945494;
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+-------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl    | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+-------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | 94028707 |    7945494 | 158.1525 | 18.3446 | 2453093.63764 | 10.564 |
0.006 |      0 | 9.923 | 0.003 |      0 | Mira3093631.cal |        1774 |  
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+-------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=7945496;
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl    | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | 94028762 |    7945496 | 158.4925 | 19.1320 | 2453093.63764 | 12.168 |
0.017 |      0 | 11.492 | 0.008 |      0 | Mira3093631.cal |        1829 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
>
> 54 Alexandra :
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/138002adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=7870511;
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl   | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | 92859360 |    7870511 | 151.9381 | 3.1177 | 2453081.69024 | 12.152 |
0.024 |      0 | 11.536 | 0.009 |      0 | Mhra3081688.cal |        1263 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
>
> 511 Davida :
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/137892adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=7866753;
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl    | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
> | 92780727 |    7866753 | 208.7458 | 11.6508 | 2453076.86810 | 11.632 |
0.013 |      0 | 10.928 | 0.006 |      0 | Mhra3076751.cal |       69608 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+---------+---------------+--------+-----
--+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+------
---+
>
> 409 Aspasia :
http://sallman.tass-survey.org/markiv/asteroids/137606adj.html
>
> mysql> select * from observations where objects_id=7852463;
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | id       | objects_id | ra       | decl   | jd            | v_mag  |
v_err | v_flag | i_mag  | i_err | i_flag | cal_file        | cal_file_id |
quality |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
> | 92503110 |    7852463 | 109.3907 | 8.5964 | 2453076.59015 | 12.220 |
0.022 |      0 | 11.393 | 0.009 |      0 | Mhra3076574.cal |       60889 | 
0 |
>
+----------+------------+----------+--------+---------------+--------+------
-+--------+--------+-------+--------+-----------------+-------------+-------
--+
>
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